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SaberBlaze - 22.06.2006, 11:38 Uhr
Titel: Dist-Upgrade Question

Hey everybody, I have a question about dist-upgrading. I installed kanotix 2005-04 a couple of days ago and I decided to dist-upgrade. Thought I originally did not intend to, the reason for this is that since all the packages are old, when I wanted to install a new program through apt-get it would need to update or install a million things, so I though I might as well dist-upgrade.

I booted into init 1.After it downloaded about 600 megabytes of files and started to do the upgrade, everyone once in a while it asked me if I wanted to replace a config file with a new one or leave the current one. I searched the forums but nobody has stated what they chose. I just said yes everytime it asked, I'm not sure if that was a good idea but my reasoning was that the updated config file must surely be better.

I kept running into errors during the installation several times, and I had to do apg-get -f install and dpkg --configure -a several times. I also had to redo the apt-get dist-upgrade for it to continue upgrading the system. Unfortunately, the last time I did the apt-get -f install, it forced udev to install although it needed a newer kernel version. So now, although I can boot to kde, my mouse and network adapters are gone; I can only use my keyboard, and I can't connect to the internet because there is no longer a eth0 adapter. Since I don't know too much about upgrading kernels and dist-upgrades, and this was my first time doing something like this, I assumed that the the upgrade would install the new kanotix kernel.

My question is, how do you guys who do dist-upgrades regularly cope with kernel versions, and if you replace config files when apg-get asks you. I'm thinking since all the packages are old that that is why my dist-upgrade failed, but who knows.

Thanks for your help.

DeepDayze - 22.06.2006, 13:27 Uhr
Titel: RE: Dist-Upgrade Question

2005-4 is quite old now...use the Easter release. Trying to dist-upgrade so many old packages at once is an invitation to disasters such as the one you experienced.

piper - 22.06.2006, 13:30 Uhr
Titel: RE: Dist-Upgrade Question

Hi SaberBlaze

The most current version of Kanotix is Kanotix Easter rc4 and in my opinion the smartest way to do the d-u (dist-upgrade) is to use the default value's which would be "n"

As for upgrading the kernel you have 2 choices (maybe more), you can open konsole and type

wget -Nc http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/ ... urrent.zip

or you can use a GUI

You can add (copy & paste) this to your source list

# Loibl's Scripte
deb http://www.andreas-loibl.de/linux/debian/ ./

Which is located at

/etc/apt/sources.list (right click on the sources.list) > Action > Edit as Root (password) SAVE after you enter the new source

Open Konsole login as root (su or sux, password)

apt-get update

If you get a key error, copy and paste this

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 3C9C56BDF781E713

hit enter, then copy and paste this

apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg

hit enter again

Then apt-get update again

apt-get install kanotix-update-gui

From there you can update the kernel

It will be located in K-menu > System > Kanotix-Update-GUI

Hope that helps Auf den Arm nehmen

h2 - 22.06.2006, 20:53 Uhr
Titel: RE: Dist-Upgrade Question

saberblaze, I wrote this for people just like you: http://techpatterns.com/forums/about736.html

that's a upgrade script.

If your base install is 2005-4, which it shouldn't be if you are starting now, use easter rc4... ignore the release candidate stuff, it just means that kano is waiting for some things to settle down in sid, the final release version will be more or less the same as the version you run that has been successfully dist-upgraded. But if your base install is 2005-4, you selected exactly the wrong option on each config file question. The correct answer is 'n', or 'cancel', or 'keep current'. Unfortunately the debian package guys have trouble using the same format, you have to think about what it asks each time, but the overall thing is you ALWAYS keep your config files, with a single exception:

doing a fresh, new install of 2005-4 or cebit, you need to say 'y' to fonts.conf

That does not apply on any later version or on stuff that has been fairly lately dist-upgraded, within the last 2 months say. In those cases, keep all your current configs. Failure to do so usually results in a failure of dist-upgrade.

I just did a vanilla install of 2005-4 to test this, and it upgraded fine, apt is a very powerful system, though I think I wouldn't try this after the install is over a year old, I'd have to see at that point. That would be pushing it. But 6 months, that's not long. But it does upgrade pretty much the whole system.

My script will alert you to things like requirements for new kernels, and let you install them, with directions.

I'm lazy, and want to eventually get my friends doing this, but they aren't going to be spending hours a week reading kanotix forums and irc, so I wanted them to have a relatively safe way to go.

Plus I upgrade a lot of boxes and installs, and I just don't like keeping all this stuff in my head, I'd rather it just live somewhere in a file that I can run. Call me lazy.

SaberBlaze - 22.06.2006, 22:20 Uhr
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Thanks guys for your help. h2, I'm going to reinstall kanotix and try your script (after apt-get is all set up of course) because I'm feeling adventurous. If for some reason I screw it up or maybe it doesn't do right, I'll go ahead and download the easter rc4 release. I'll post back my results when it's done.

Btw, does anyone know when the final version of the newer kanotix will be released? I can't hardly wait.

piper - 22.06.2006, 22:25 Uhr
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Not to be a smart @ss, but when it's done and ready Smilie

h2 - 22.06.2006, 22:46 Uhr
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saberblaze, there is nothing to setup with apt, once you have installed kanotix, set up your network connections, apt is up and running.

That's when you download script, get out of kde, ideally by rebooting and starting in runlevel 3, type 3 in grub, hit enter, navigate to /usr/local/bin where you put the script, run script, that's it, follow directions.

May work, should. Personally I wouldn't start with 2005-4, you are just falling for some semantics here, it's just words, kanotix since 2005-4 IS debian sid, with some kanotix packages added, and a kanotix/slh created kernel. But if you want to do it, have fun, it's about 1000 packages to upgrade/update/add currently, 600 mB or so. All options will need to be run that the script has, and only font.conf can be accepted when confirmation is asked for.

Do not configure any of the stuff that will be installed that you don't use, some modem stuff, hp printer stuff, just say no to it all unless you actually need it. That's no to all the internal dist-upgrade process stuff, except fonts.conf, and y to all my script stuff.

By the way, trying to do a dist-upgrade on 2005-4 without using that script is FAR more adventurous than using my script, and it's almost certain to result in failure unless you know and implement each and every fix it contains manually. And doing a dist-upgrade on easter is still easier with it than without it, there are a few fixes that are required now, multicd comes to mind, if still needed, sometimes sid just fixes the stuff by itself at a later date. the xorg fix is not required in easter rc4, but was in earlier rc's if I remember right, otherwise I'd just not offer it as an option when the version is easter, but the first easter was released before xorg 7 was included, I think anyway.

Re the newer version of kanotix, anyone who is successfully dist-upgrading and kernel upgrading is running the newer version of kanotix. With one exception, the knxcc stuff, kanotix gui control panel, but it doesn't really offer anything you don't already have access to through the kanotix fish on the taskbar, it's just nicer looking and more 'user friendly', I don't use it, no reason to.

SaberBlaze - 22.06.2006, 23:06 Uhr
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Well, when I said set up apt, I meant do a apt-get update and then fix the key errors that appear, and after that to use your script.

Thanks for your help h2.

h2 - 22.06.2006, 23:22 Uhr
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my script does that for you, it's designed so you don't need to know the steps, it has the steps built in from beginning to end. Plus probably a manual option list for each major thing it does, if you only want to do one of them. That will override the memory of steps thing I think.

Next version will also remember your choices so it doesn't keep asking you to do things you've either: already done, or don't want done. That will speed it up a bit too for repeat uses.

SaberBlaze - 23.06.2006, 04:39 Uhr
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It worked!! Sehr glücklich

This script is awesome, h2, even the fglrx drivers are working flawlessly. I had choose the apt-get -f install options several times, of course, but when it was done with the dist-upgrade and installing the fglrx it booted to the desktop and everything works fine. Thanks, h2, this script should be included with all kanotix releases.

Now, if I want to, say, do a dist-upgrade once a month, do I just choose the same options in the script (dbus, multicd, install driver) or should I only choose to update the kernel if there is a new version? Also, if in later dist-upgrades I get asked the questions of whether to update config files, I always choose no, right?

Thanks h2, now I am fully up to date.

PS, should I clean the /var/cache/apt folder (using apt-get clean)? I don't think I need almost 700 megabytes of installation files, right?

h2 - 23.06.2006, 08:59 Uhr
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heh heh... yes, it works, I use it all the time.

saberblaze, no, the options on the script mostly only need to be run one time, but most of them can be run repeatedly with no ill affect, there is just no point to it.

The next version of the script will in fact only run the options once, then write to a config file so that you don't get asked those questions if you've already done them.

The kernel you can always choose to upgrade if you want, it's the first real option currently, but if you did it today, you have the latest, 2.6.17 so you shouldn't need a new one for a while unless something isn't working.

To clean apt cache, run: apt-get clean
To get rid of old kernel, run this: remove-all-kernels-completely

I'll probably add an option list so you can pick stuff like that, or any one single operation, in the next version or two, in other words, auto or manual, plus some nice stuff like the above.

Since the script updates itself if required automatically, there's no need to check for new versions, it does it for you.

But I'll probably add those features, or most of them, this week.

Glad the script work, there isn't currently any real reason to expect it not to, especially on a new install.

The script has a few small bugs in it, but I think I figured out how to fix one of them today, we'll see, it's a weirdness with how bash works.

Richard - 25.06.2006, 01:59 Uhr
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Just another success story.
Ran the script on a fresh k-easter-rc4 install.

etorix - 25.06.2006, 16:45 Uhr
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in most cases the answer to a 'new config' question is 'N' , or 'enter' [keep existing]
only rarely is it correct to accept a new config
almost NEVER ,in the case of custom-configurations

op4latino - 25.06.2006, 17:09 Uhr
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etorix hat folgendes geschrieben::

only rarely is it correct to accept a new config

What is a good example(s) of a rare situation to obtain a new configuration?

h2: nice script, I hope aynoS learns about it.

slam - 25.06.2006, 17:11 Uhr
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Zitat:

What is a good example(s) of a rare situation to obtain a new configuration?

If the old configuration did not work for you, and you hope the new one comes with a solution for your problem. Winken

Greetings,
Chris

h2 - 25.06.2006, 22:53 Uhr
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Doing a full dist-upgrade from a fresh, non dist-upgraded 2005-4 or Cebit install, and possibly Easter rc 1 or 2, I can't remember, there is only one config you need to use new, or 'y', that's fonts.conf. All other options can safely be answered by 'n', 'cancel', 'ok', or whatever else translates to 'keep my current configuration'. That wvdialup or whatever keeps coming up just use cancel unless you need it for something.

Slam points out the other rare instance.

the script now has sticky selections for some options so you will only see those the first time you run it, as of version 2.0.0

I tested a 2005-4 yesterday full upgrade, it takes a long time, you have to do the install -f / dist-upgrade options several times before it's all installed, don't assume it's done until running both results in no further activity.

The dbus / hal stuff on a vanilla install now appears to require a reboot before it's all working correctly, at least that's what I saw. After reboot it was ok. This is not an issue on easter releases.

I'll probably add some other small conveniences to be offered before it ends like running alsaconf, apt-get clean, fix-res, and a few other little things that some users might not know about, but otherwise it seems ok for the moment.

michael7 - 25.06.2006, 23:14 Uhr
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h2,

I used your script last night. I had to run it two times. After the first run, Kanotix booted slow and everything seemed in slow motion. After a second run, however, the results were excellent. Thank you for writing and sharing it.

michael

P.S. I have an AMD64 dual core processor, if that's of any interest to you.

h2 - 25.06.2006, 23:41 Uhr
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My guess is that the dist-upgrade didn't finish all the way, it's not always obvious that it didn't. Running the 1 and 2 options in the dist-upgrade section several more times after you think it's done will not hurt anything when you are doing a really big dist-upgrade, and will make sure that the full distupgrade gets done.

On normal, smaller dist-upgrades, the 1 [install -f] option should hopefully not be required in most cases, unless the upgrade stopped with errors.

This is especially important on old, non-dist-upgraded systems, where it will hang many times before finally getting all completed.

Lucky you on the dual core, that was out of my price range when I built this box, now of course next month prices are dropping and the faster and dual core chip costs the same as I paid for my single core slower chip 8 months ago.

michael7 - 25.06.2006, 23:57 Uhr
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h2,

Regarding the dual core processor, I mentioned it because I wanted you to know that your script worked just fine on it.

michael

P.S. In March, I got a bonus at work and blew the whole check on a new box with the dual core processor. With 2 Gig of RAM, it's as quick as a hiccup. Please don't tell the wife. Sehr glücklich

P.P.S. If I were a more patient man, apparently I could have waited and bought it for half the price.

DeepDayze - 26.06.2006, 00:12 Uhr
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michael7 hat folgendes geschrieben::

P.S. If I were a more patient man, apparently I could have waited and bought it for half the price.

piper - 26.06.2006, 03:30 Uhr
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michael7 hat folgendes geschrieben::

P.P.S. If I were a more patient man, apparently I could have waited and bought it for half the price.

Way to go michael7 !!!!

I love this part Smilie

Please don't tell the wife

hehe Winken

things we men MUST do

gs - 26.06.2006, 06:49 Uhr
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@h2: I was intriged by the descriptions of your upgrade-script and tried it on a fresh install Frage

of Kanotix-2006-VDR6RC:
It did not run but quit saying the Kanotix-install was to old...... Frage

h2 - 26.06.2006, 18:30 Uhr
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Yes, I have to change that wording, it should say it's either too old or an unrecognized kanotix.

Please run this command: cat /etc/kanotix-version

and copy in the output here and I'll add that version as a supported version.

For now though, you can simply comment out this line, at 1080: check_kano_version

comment out with a #

that will let the script run

gs - 26.06.2006, 19:01 Uhr
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gskanovdrhdb8@KanotixBox:~$ cat /etc/kanotix-version
KANOTIX 2006 VDR

hi, @h2, as I said it is a fresh hd-install of KANOTIX-VDR-RC6.iso

thanks!

h2 - 26.06.2006, 19:25 Uhr
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try running the script now, it should work fine, it's updated. I didn't realize the vdr thing was an official release. Your local version of du-fixes-h2.sh will update itself when it starts, so you don't need to do anything but run the version you downloaded.

gs - 26.06.2006, 21:00 Uhr
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it did work alright - thanks once more Winken

zonker666 - 02.07.2006, 21:10 Uhr
Titel: thanks

Broke (seriously) two kanotixBoxes trying to update Traurig

Found this thread and used your script, one time dist-upgrade was all that was needed for everything to work. Thanks a lot for this

h2 - 03.07.2006, 05:46 Uhr
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zonker, that's good to hear. Which kanotix installs did you break then get running again? The versions, that is. It's always good to know what has worked for other people.

zonker666 - 03.07.2006, 12:58 Uhr
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uhm, i didn't get anything running again, im running easter ed. rc4. The two tries i made without your script i ended up in a real mess with no swap partition due to some error (super block?), unable to mount /var, /tmp, /usr and /home (they are on differen partitions than /) and a recovery console to fix all that with. Having just installed kanotix and being a General Linux n00b i simply gave up and reinstalled. So your script was used on a clean rc4 installation

kmoffat - 03.07.2006, 14:08 Uhr
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Should the machine automatically switch to runlevel 3, shutting down X and finishing the install after a dist-upgrade? Seems my X shuts down but then I go to a gdm login. I am running gnome and the easter install.

h2 - 03.07.2006, 20:41 Uhr
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kmoffat, it's not clear what you did, but this is what it sounds like:

<<< Should the machine automatically switch to runlevel 3 >>>
You should have been in runlevel 3 before doing the update, and during the update.

<<< shutting down X and finishing the install after a dist-upgrade >>>
X should have been shut down before you started, and during the dist-upgrade. Only once the dist-upgrade was completely finished should x be started again.

Did you do a dist-upgrade in x, in gnome? That's what it sounds like, that's a very risky thing to do, often results in failure of the installation.

kmoffat - 03.07.2006, 22:23 Uhr
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I was trying out the Kanotix-upgrade-GUI from gnome's system menu. It is, I believe, supposed to download the upgrades, then switch to runlevel 3 automatically to apply the upgrades, but all I got was a gdm login instead of runlevel 3. I later did a dist-upgrade after shutting down X and the files had been downloaded, just not installed. I assumed a bug in the gui, perhaps relating to my using gnome over kde. Just guessing...

devil - 03.07.2006, 22:46 Uhr
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kmoffat,
it could be that it dont work with gnome correctly, but i dont recommend kugui for dist-upgrades anyways.
for kernel-upfates it is ok, for d-u i preferr plain apt always.

greetz
devil

Swynndla - 05.07.2006, 01:10 Uhr
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h2 - cool script - seemed to work great. I tried the kernel update option too, and it seemed to remove my other grub entries (ones that pointed to different partitions that I didn't want removed) ... I think it did this, or did I imagine it ... I've been making so many changes lately ... but I thought I'd mention it in case I'm right.

h2 - 05.07.2006, 04:13 Uhr
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The kernel upgrade option simply automates the kanotix FAQ page kernel install, as well as select the appropriate 32/64 bit newest stable kernel for installation.

The grub changes are done by kano's kernel installer script, not by this dist-upgrade script. This script simply triggers kano's kernel installer script. You are right in thinking that menu.lst is changed, but that's always been the case.

Now that you mention it it wouldn't be a bad idea for me to create a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst so users can get back any menu.lst changes they've done if they want. I make the script make backups of most of the other changed config files, so no reason not to backup menu.lst as well.

SaberBlaze - 05.07.2006, 05:39 Uhr
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h2, I notice that in the tech patterns post you say we have to do "update-modules" after a kernel upgrade to continue using the script, but if you type "man update-modules" it states that it is an obsolete command. I was just wondering if using it was really necessary.

Also, if I understand correctly, the script only downloads the curren kernel, right? It does not have an option to download the "up" kernel. Reason for this is that I need the slh-up kernel to have suspend-to-ram support (also, what else does this kernel have that the stock kernel doesn't?). I just use the Kanotix-Update-Gui for those kernels.

One of the few problems that I have encountered (not with the script) in doing a dist-upgrade is that in synaptic, when it is installing something, the font is all messed up, showing a bunch of gibberish. Of course, I can just copy and paste that into KWrite and read but... And yes, I did install synaptic after the dist-upgrade.

Here is a picture to better explain:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9239/snapshot14dk.png

Hmm, is this fixable?

EDIT:Forgot to say that I fixed the problem with synaptic. All I had to do was specify a custom terminal font that was not Sans.

h2 - 05.07.2006, 05:50 Uhr
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I'm just following the procedure in the update kanotix kernel page, but I can say that running update-modules does something or other, and if there are no modules to update, it tells you that too. Also, today I noticed that alsaconf runs that. So unless there's a good solid reason given not to do that by somebody who actually knows for sure, I'll keep recommending it.

You can get the uniprocessor kernel by simply switching the values in the top variable listings, the latest is listed there. Make sure script is updated before you start so you don't lose your changes. The latest kernels are all listed, I just only use kernel-current and the latest 64 bit. But the other ones, when applicable, are also listed there if you want to use them.

I'll probably add the kernel version selection option to the kernel installer function, but I actually want to keep this pretty basic, and avoid specialized stuff that in my opinion newer users are safer not doing.

I can't say a word about synaptic, I haven't seen it in over a year, don't use it.

gtpeacock - 11.07.2006, 03:58 Uhr
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Let's get back to the original post. I have the identical problem! After a recent dist-upgrade, hotplug complains that it cannot identify my mouse, and my wireless card fails to load. I can get both working with modprobe psmouse and modprobe rt2500, but I cannot seem to figure out how to make them stick when rebooting. I have added both to /etc/modules, but the next time I boot, they are not included. What am I doing wrong? What is the correct way to make modules load at boot? Using kernel 2.6.17.

Debian_Disciple - 17.07.2006, 05:31 Uhr
Titel: Thanks

h2 I just wanted to thank you and the kanotix team I have been using Linux on and off for the last 7 years and I must say kanotix is one of the easiest installs I have ever done. not only that I think I have finally found a true home with Debian/SID it has everything I have been looking for in a distro 1. Current software 2. great tools 3. an easy upgrade path Sehr glücklich

it will be so nice not having to download and burn new ISO's every 6 months to stay current Cool

H2 thanks to your script the distro upgrade was painless for me thanks a million Cool

I have loved my Debian experience thus far and I hope to keep learning and contributing has much as I can.

DD

al3 - 17.07.2006, 07:28 Uhr
Titel: RE: Thanks

Maybe this script should be part of Kanotix itself? Have you offered it to Kano?

Al

h2 - 17.07.2006, 08:30 Uhr
Titel: RE: Thanks

It's fine the way it is now in my opinion, users are free to use it if they want, and not to if they don't want. Plus it needs to be on my server for several different reasons. And it's missing some security features in terms of stopping unsafe upgrades automatically, which also would need to run on my server for the same types of reasons.

Swynndla - 18.07.2006, 01:10 Uhr
Titel: RE: Thanks

I tried d-u'ing a kanotix install running 2.6.14 kernel (and also I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.17) and I tried doing it without h2's script, as I've always d-u'd manually in the past, and I thought that if I used a script then I wouldn't know what it was actually doing and I wouldn't learn anything. But I got myself into trouble (once again) and X wouldn't boot and I couldn't install the nvidia driver. I ran to Kano on IRC and he told me how to fix it ... I hadn't run the fix-xorg7.sh script ... ran that and then everything went smoothly.

I needed to d-u another old kanotix box running 2.6.14 kernel, but this time I used h2's script to do the kernel upgrade and also the dist-upgrade. Everything went so smoothly, and it did everything including the fix-xorg7.sh script. Moreover, it told me exactly what it was doing and gave me the choice to do each stage or not ... so I knew what was going on.

Thank you h2 for making the script say clearly what it was doing!

Most scripts don't tell you the commands they are running, and so you just see a lot of output that doesn't seem to relate to anything. I remember when I came across "dvdwizard" ... it was the first script I saw that said 'running command "xxx yyy zzz"' and would then run the command. A very transparent script.

SaberBlaze - 22.07.2006, 05:17 Uhr
Titel: Latest Dist-Upgrade

Well, I think about 2 days ago I dist-upgrade, and everything ran fine as usual. Well, I wanted to log out, and I did, nothing unusual there. However, when I logged out a second time, my computer froze. Since it sat there doing nothing for several minutes and it wasn't taking in any keyboard or mouse input, I held the power button until the computer shut off. When I turned it on again, I knew that the filesystem would not be clean because my computer had gotten stuck once before, so I booted to runlevel three, sure enough it stated that the filesystem was not clean, I tried fixing it with reiserfsck, but the computer froze in the middle of a rebuild tree operation. So I had to use the livecd to fix it. Now, for me at least, any livecd fails to boot after a messed up reiserfs partition (my guess is that it tries to automount it or something).

To make a long story short, I got the livecd to boot and fixed the partition from there (second time I had to do that). But since this was like the third time that I had rebuilt the reiserfs tree, the distro was useless. The folder "lost+found" was filled with countless files, and all I ended up with was a terminal when I tried to boot into it. I suppose I could have tried to fix the partition using apt to reinstall all packages, but since the whole partition was messed up, my ethernet card did not work. So I use the livecd to back some stuff up to a usb drive, and downloaded the kanotix-2006-easter-rc4 cd.

Before installing it, I zero-filled the partition, and the install went smooth. I dist-upgraded again, installed some programs that I use, I logged out, and the same thing happened. The computer froze. I waited for about 10 minutes and nothing happened. So I used the livecd to check the partition, no corruptions where found, so I booted into it and now I don't want to log out in fear that it will happen again. It seems the only way to log out now is to kill the x server, but sometimes when I install something, the changes take effect when I log out, and I don't know if killing the x server shuts some processes off or not.

I'm pretty sure it's not any of new programs that I use that are not in the base install of kanotix that causes this. The only ones I think of right now are abiword, openoffice, kpowersave and a few others I think. Some people might think that it is kpowersave that is causing the problems, but between this dist-upgrade that I did and the last one, kpowersave has not been updated.

Does anyone else have this problem? It usually happens around the second time I log out. Can maybe someone try logging out and in a couple of times with the latest dist-upgrade and see what happens? Thanks.

piper - 22.07.2006, 05:40 Uhr
Titel: RE: Latest Dist-Upgrade

Hmm, bad harddrive, ram, motherboard, excessive heat, bad burn, could be kpowersave.

I would try and install again and not do anything to it (add apps, d-u) and run it like that for a few hours and see if you are still locking up, if not, add one app at a time that way you might catch if it is indeed a app that is causing the lockups, if all goes well try a d-u again, time consuming yes, but you might be able to see what is causing the lockups, I wouldn't have used reiserfsck on the "not clean part", most of the time you can boot into the system, then reboot and it will be fine and not show as "not clean".

SaberBlaze - 22.07.2006, 05:44 Uhr
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Well, actually I spend yesterday testing the 2006 rc4 release and nothing happened, it was only until today that I dist-upgrade, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll run memtest later when I have the time though.

Edit:I also forgot to say that I have an ati card, so it might just be some rare bug or something, although I have been lucky and never had any problems with the fglrx drivers with any distro before, it might just be causing problems now. Also, regarding the faulty hardware, I dual boot windows and everything is fine on that end. Thanks for your help.

SaberBlaze - 23.07.2006, 09:33 Uhr
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Well, memtest did not reveal any errors, and the problem seems to be fixed by using a different kdm theme than the default one. Thanks for your help though.