Installation - Borked My HDD

pfe1223 - 31.10.2006, 01:32 Uhr
Titel: Borked My HDD
I was on my way to installing 2006-01-RC4 when I decided to erase my partitions. I guess that I told Kanotix to erase the entire HDD, which no means that nothing exists. So, I decided to create two new partitions. The installer said that I need to create a disklabel. However, the installer said there was an error while trying to create a disklabel. What can I do to fix the problem? Thanks for your help.
Richard - 31.10.2006, 02:13 Uhr
Titel: RE: Borked My HDD
You don't have to put disklabels, but it helps.
I noticed that the first one is for the CD-ROM.
When I quit trying to call that win_c it worked OK of me.

When things get weird with the install scripts, I find it helpful
to just restart the LiveCD and try again. Ask again if more problems.
pfe1223 - 31.10.2006, 02:22 Uhr
Titel: RE: Borked My HDD
On my computer, hda is unrecognizable. I did something, and now I can't get anything to work with my computer. It is a giant paper weight. I've tried restarting the livecd, but the installer only sees a HDD of unallocated space. Slax does not see the HDD at all. Gparted (the livecd) froze while searching all devices. I've no idea what to do.
Richard - 31.10.2006, 02:29 Uhr
Titel: RE: Borked My HDD
Sounds like it might not be formatted. Maybe it didn't complete.
Or there's a cable loose?

What does the Kanotix LiveCD do? Will it boot and can you mount anything?

If it runs, re-run the parted, or do a
$ sudo konsole
# cfdisk

To see what is showing in the partition table.
And tell what it shows?
pfe1223 - 31.10.2006, 02:45 Uhr
Titel: RE: Borked My HDD
Well, it is a laptop, so I don't think that there is a cable loose. The livecd will boot, but I can not mount anything. When I run cfdisk, it says "Fatal error: can not read disk drive".
mzilikazi - 31.10.2006, 05:10 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
pfe1223 hat folgendes geschrieben::
Well, it is a laptop, so I don't think that there is a cable loose.

But the hdd itself could be lose! Yes I have seen it happen before.
Get root. Do this:
fdisk -l

Paste the output here.

How are you launching cfdisk?
cfdisk /dev/hda

Paste any and all terminal output. It should be as simple as creating 2 new partitions on /dev/hda with cfdisk.

Personally, I alway use cfdisk. Not Gparted, not qtparted.
It just works. Gparted is great if you need to resize an NTFS partition but other than that I see no need for it.
pfe1223 - 01.11.2006, 02:33 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
I tried to use cfdisk /dev/hda, and the response I got was "FATAL ERROR: cannot open disk drive"
h2 - 01.11.2006, 02:41 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
yes, it's dead, or has no physical connection, which can mean a bad cable, a bad connection, etc.

I just watched drive die that way today, first it sort of worked, then I started to test it by writing a big block of data to it, then it slowed, more, then vanished. Then it wasn't seen any more. Then the dreaded 'tick tick tick tick' sound appeared when I tried to restart the enclosure. That sound almost always means death.

Hard drives can and do die. Usually they have a 3 year warranty, unless you got a seagate, newer, they have 5 year warranties, but you have to run a disk check utility, ideally from the manufactorer, before filling out an rma form to get a replacement.

What's really pleasant though in linux though is that when the disk dies, the os keeps functioning, unlike windows, which starts totally freaking out, and often destablizes completely, if it runs at all.

Before assuming death, try physically removing the drive tray, then reinsert it again to make sure it's not a bad connection.
pfe1223 - 01.11.2006, 02:48 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
The odd thing is that I was in the process of installing Kanotix. I thought I was formating the first of two partition. Instead, it looks as though I erased the entire disk. Since then, I had nothing but problems. That is why I find it hard to believe that it is a bad cable or dead drive.
h2 - 01.11.2006, 04:10 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
Not at all, just think about it, the drive is weak, about to die, you suddenly flood it with heavy duty formatting and disk write operations, then it dies. I literally did this exact thing today with a suspect drive. Drives are mechanical objects, and when they are failing, and you ask their mechanism to suddenly do a great deal of work, that might very well prompt a full failure.

However, double check the drive tray connection etc.
Swynndla - 01.11.2006, 20:06 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
errr pfe1223, you did do "cfdisk /dev/hda" as root, right?
h2 - 01.11.2006, 20:34 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
swynndla, good one, that's the problem in this case, must be logged in as root to run cfdisk, or gparted, maybe there is hope after all.
pfe1223 - 02.11.2006, 03:22 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
I did "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda"
h2 - 02.11.2006, 04:16 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Borked My HDD
If you did that from the live cd, then I think your hard disk is dead, sorry.
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