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Titel: If Kanotix didn't exist, what distro would you use?
 Verfasst am: 18.03.2006, 13:52 Uhr
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Or put more succinctly, what is the 2nd best distro? 
I think I would be struggling with Debian Sid still, it is a lot easier having Kano's scripts etc, but I like the sort of pureness of Debian. |
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Titel: RE: If Kanotix didn
Verfasst am: 18.03.2006, 17:18 Uhr
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Thats a tough question  Most likely
1. Debian Sid
2. Wolvix (slax)
3. Underground (arch)
Although I like mz's version of E17 very much, it might be different without Kanotix so I did not list it. |
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Titel: RE: If Kanotix didn
Verfasst am: 18.03.2006, 17:53 Uhr
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Titel: RE: If Kanotix didn
Verfasst am: 18.03.2006, 17:55 Uhr
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I am using debian sid right now, but I just finished my amd64 build and am having problem using the 64 bit flavor.
I downloaded kanotix 64 last night and will try it out to see if it solves any of my problems (well just one actually.) If not I will probably be back to 32 bit debian sid.
Kanotix remians my favorite debian based distro.
Underground is arch based now but I did try it when it was debian based. |
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Titel: RE: If Kanotix didn
Verfasst am: 18.03.2006, 19:27 Uhr
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debian sid or etch. But I probably wouldn't be using it, it's too much to learn all at once, that's the reason I like kanotix, I can ease into the stuff, learn as I go, I tried installing debian and failed several times, though now the installer is much better, I had very little trouble getting the net install of etch on a box using the small cd installer setup. But that's for server stuff, too many fun things I like to use on the desktop.
My guess is that when sid is stable or testing for the most part, I may just move to sid permanently, or stable that is, since I don't need much more functionality than I currently have on my boxes. But as long as kano and his team keep releasing kanotix I don't see any reason to stop using it currently. Unless of course I have a full dist-upgrade failure one day, if that happens I'll move to etch and forget about the wild frontier's of unstable.
However, 2005-4 64 failed to install on my box, same box 2005-3-64 installed on with no problems, so I might look at other 64 bit distros if the cebit version also doesn't install on this one. But it's not an issue, from what I can read 64 bit doesn't really do much for speed on the desktop for most users.
I'll be setting up a debian stable server soon though to learn that, the sarge installer should work fine, it's an older box, shouldn't be any hardware issues at all. kanotix on the desktop, as long as possible though, I'm fully switched now, rarely boot into windows any more. |
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Titel: RE: If Kanotix didn
Verfasst am: 18.03.2006, 21:33 Uhr
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Debian testing/unstable. I don't find it difficult at all, but it is a very good thing that I can have a fully working Debian in 15 minutes, whilst Debian takes a few hours to install and configure.
Besides a big bonus for me is that Kanotix has first class pppoe support, whilst Debian is a pain from that point of view.
I could also use Libranet 3.0, but it is getting really old. |
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Titel: RE: If Kanotix didn
Verfasst am: 19.03.2006, 17:53 Uhr
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Unfortunately, not being as "Linux Worldly" as others who have posted, if Kanotix wasnt here, I'd still be back at the Knoppix Camp -=- still dealing with hard drive installing it, and dealing with its "should never do this" stuff...
Until I was shown Kanotix, thats where I was, breakin Knoppix, and dealing with the eggs on the floor, dont do this, dont do that, dont run this, etc... it worked, but, it took a lot of work, as well... Anyway, its good to have Kanotix, it has saved a lot of my sanity, and my system has never been as stable (this even includes the times I was running Knoppix), Kano's scripts makes a breeze out of any thing... Still remember having to deal with compiling my own kernel to include NVidia video drivers into the Knoppix install - Kano's scripts are the "cream-de-la-creme"... If Kanotix didnt exist, Linux would be vastly years behind from where they are now... IMHO |
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Titel: Re: RE: If Kanotix didn
Verfasst am: 19.03.2006, 22:05 Uhr
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Cuddles hat folgendes geschrieben::
If Kanotix didnt exist, Linux would be vastly years behind from where they are now... IMHO
Even if it seems to contradict my previous post, I actually agree with that one: Kanotix is Debian become perfection. |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 00:38 Uhr
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| I've used Mepis and liked it. (As a matter of fact, I first heard about Kanotix from a post on the MepisLovers website.) Knoppix, perhaps. I have great respect for Klaus Knopper. But for me there's nothing even close to Kanotix. |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 01:41 Uhr
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#1 Debian Sid for a desktop
#2 Debian Sarge for a server
Take your pick of installations iso's it really isn't rocket science to install Debian but it might be to get some hardware *cough* (can you say ATI & wireless and probably some other hardware I've never owned) working. For me there is no other reason to even look at another live cd besides Kantoix since none of them even come close to even being in the same league as Kanotix. The exception would be to test one now and again just to see how they accomplish a certain task or function but that's it. |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 03:38 Uhr
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I guess I'd use Ubuntu while I went back distro whoring again.
If Kanotix didn't exist? Bite your tongue, what a terrible thought. Don't tempt the fates with such perverse ideas, they might hear you. |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 03:41 Uhr
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I would run PCLinuxOS (which grew from Mandrake). It is simiilar to Kanotix as it is run by a few people who really understand BOTH software and hardware and who bring a passion to their work and a commitment to excellence. If Slackware were a modern distro with all the multi-media stuff built in and had a good pkg manager I'd go back to that. However Slackware does not and will not 'be there' and IMO it remains the best distro that 1995 has to offer!
PCLinuxOS is, in the RPM world, what Kanotix is to Debian... and that would be my choice.
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 06:14 Uhr
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PCLinuxOS, however, I could not live without Kanotix!  |
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Titel: Re: If Kanotix didn't exist, what distro would you use?
Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 10:12 Uhr
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rich.bradshaw hat folgendes geschrieben::
Or put more succinctly, what is the 2nd best distro?
i think i would use gentoo. but waiting for the compilation to finish s****ed big times, so i looked around and found kanotix
anyway, if kanotix didn't exist, i'd still use gentoo, because debian sounded too elite for me and i never dared to try it before i found kanotix  |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 11:36 Uhr
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I wouldn't be using Linux if it wasn't for Kanotix so I'd stay with the Kanotix install that I've got (it does exist . . . and it works!).
drb |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 16:49 Uhr
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drb hat folgendes geschrieben::
I wouldn't be using Linux if it wasn't for Kanotix so I'd stay with the Kanotix install that I've got (it does exist . . . and it works!).
drb
Good point! I was on the vegre of giving up before this. Every distro I tryed to use at the time didn't include the newest ndiswrapper, so I couldn't get the internet to work. Hence I couldn't download the newest ndiswrapper to get the internet to work...
Kanotix has literally changed my life! lol |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 21:47 Uhr
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My first choice is Mepis, second is Kanotix (can't get the fonts anywhere as near as nice as on Mepis). Third would be Debian sid.
No interest in trying rpm based distros, though I have thought about trying Slackware or Arch.
If Mepis goes down a road I don't like (Ubuntu repos) then I won't bother getting a newer version. I'll stick to 3.4.3 and keep running it with the debian sid repos. If it breaks, then I'll switch more to Kanotix.
I keep my Kanotix partition dist-upgraded (is that a verb?!), though I use it less than Mepis.
IMO both, in their own ways, are great distros.
Now if both go down the pan.....well....I'm f....d.  |
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Verfasst am: 20.03.2006, 23:35 Uhr
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I am very glad that Kanotix exists! it is the best Linux distro(in my opinion). Thanks Kano!
If not for Kanotix, I would be using Knoppix. I tried about 10 other distros. Only Debian Sarge, Knoppix, and Kanotix were able to complete the install on my machine. In Debian Sarge, I never could get CUPS to work properly. Knoppix was better, but Kanotix is the BEST! |
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Verfasst am: 21.03.2006, 00:09 Uhr
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anticapitalista hat folgendes geschrieben::
My first choice is Mepis, second is Kanotix (can't get the fonts anywhere as near as nice as on Mepis).
I used to have problems with fonts like this. Could get them right on Kanotix but not on Mepis, and then vice-versa. That was until I discovered the subtle relationship between screen size, pixels, and dpi resolution. Make sure you are using TT fonts. Kano's utility fix-* scripts adjust all this stuff. |
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Verfasst am: 21.03.2006, 08:26 Uhr
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markb hat folgendes geschrieben::
anticapitalista hat folgendes geschrieben::
My first choice is Mepis, second is Kanotix (can't get the fonts anywhere as near as nice as on Mepis).
I used to have problems with fonts like this. Could get them right on Kanotix but not on Mepis, and then vice-versa. That was until I discovered the subtle relationship between screen size, pixels, and dpi resolution. Make sure you are using TT fonts. Kano's utility fix-* scripts adjust all this stuff.
I have tried using Kano's script, I use the same TT fonts and a dpi of 96 for both Kanotix and Mepis, xorg is 6.9, same monitor etc, but fonts don't look as good in Kanotix.
I thought the main problem may be due to the fact that I use gdm with Mepis and kdm in Kanotix. However even using kdm in Mepis produces the same nice looking fonts, and for some reason I cannpt get gdm to work in Kanotix (but I'm not that bothered-yet).
Kanotix is a fantastic distro, with minor teething problems, but an annoying one. |
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Verfasst am: 21.03.2006, 08:47 Uhr
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I reckon i'd carry on as i do now and try nearly every distro that sounds good in distrowatch Atm im tri-booting gentoo, kanotix and mepis.
Gentoo rocks- but its compile time doesnt- even to sync the repos takes ages- gentoo is a total lesson in patience hehe.
Slackware is good but slapt-get needs work to compete with apt (in my experience at least).
Mepis works well- the installer is brilliant too. I am worried bout the ubuntu thing tho- see how that one plays out......
Kanotix still rules in most respects tho. Friendly support is a big bonus i must say- and no matter wot distro i try- i always keep kanotix, after all its the distro that got me into linux- AND kept me there. |
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Verfasst am: 21.03.2006, 23:38 Uhr
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anticapitalista hat folgendes geschrieben::
I thought the main problem may be due to the fact that I use gdm with Mepis and kdm in Kanotix. However even using kdm in Mepis produces the same nice looking fonts, and for some reason I cannpt get gdm to work in Kanotix (but I'm not that bothered-yet).
Kanotix is a fantastic distro, with minor teething problems, but an annoying one.
Maybe the freeze-rc.d hack is stopping gdm from registering its init script via update-rc.d. (kanotix specific hack)
try:
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unfreeze-rc.d
apt-get --reinstall install gdm
freeze-rc.d
I have used gdm for a long time.
Thanks, Kel. |
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Verfasst am: 22.03.2006, 15:19 Uhr
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Arch Linux (and its derivate Underground).
It's fast (faster than any other modern Linux Distro I have used), has by far the best package management (pacman), and it's clean and consistent.
I like it even more than any Debian, but it requires a lot of time to configure your hardware. But when it's up running, I consider it to be even better than Kanotix. However, I never got it running with *everything* working. It took me 3 days to install my DVB card, while DVB works wonderfully out-of-the-box with Kanotix and SuSE.
So, Kanotix 1st, Arch 2nd, and SuSE 3rd.
I do not like a pure Debian sid/sarge/whatever system - but I have to admit that my last Debian was version 2.2 with kernel 2.0.3x so I can't really compare to 3.1+  |
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Verfasst am: 22.03.2006, 15:28 Uhr
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tr0nic hat folgendes geschrieben::
I do not like a pure Debian sid/sarge/whatever system - but I have to admit that my last Debian was version 2.2 with kernel 2.0.3x so I can't really compare to 3.1+
You'd be very surprised if you tried the Etch installer beta 2, except that pppoe is totally unsupported. |
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Verfasst am: 24.03.2006, 11:54 Uhr
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| If there was no Kanotix, then I guess I would be distro hopping forever. I kept trying all sorts and never found a home until Kanotix. But, my top 3 choices would be Ubuntu, Slackware and PC-BSD. |
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