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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 08.10.2006, 09:31 Uhr



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jbs1136 hat folgendes geschrieben::
Thought I would add this in. I discovered that if I turned the num lock off the keys worked. With it on they wouldn't. Works backward for some reason.

Have just installed 2006-1 RC4 and am trying to get compiz working again. I couldn't get all of the errors but it had something to do with beryl. I think that is the new name of a branch. Has anyone got it working with RC4?

John


Yes, works fine here (NVidia FX 5500/P4 2 Ghz/512 megs DDR1).
1. add to your sources list: deb http://kanotixguide.org/debian sid main contrib non-free

2. # update-scripts-kanotix.sh
# apt-get update
# apt-get install beryl
# apt-get install libxcomposite1
# chvt 1

3. login as root
# install-nvidia-debian.sh -c

After login to KDE, open a console and then as user:
$ beryl-manager

Have fun!
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 08.10.2006, 15:13 Uhr



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@jens,

Thanks for the help but I have an ATI card.

John

added: When I added the kanotixguide.org line and did the update I got this:

W: GPG error: http://kanotixguide.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D278AE91D4E9F186

How do I get the key for this?

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 08.10.2006, 16:10 Uhr
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John do

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys D278AE91D4E9F186 (or just the last 8 D4E9F186) hit enter then

apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg (hit enter) then

apt-get update

This "might" (beryl) work for you, doing a google, some people with ati can get this to work, although no where near as good as nvidia.

You can try or just wait till better ATI support comes along Winken

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 08.10.2006, 16:37 Uhr



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apt-get install kanotixguide-keyring should also solve the issue with the GPG-error. To beryl whith ATI Ican't say anything, i always preferred Vidocards with functional drivers. (in early win95-times a specialist advised me, which not to buy Winken )

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 08.10.2006, 17:16 Uhr
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Well, fucntional to me is a very nice PVR (dual-boot) which nv does not have, not even with windows

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Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there  BeitragVerfasst am: 10.10.2006, 00:41 Uhr



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jackiebrown hat folgendes geschrieben::
compiz hit the official Debian repos today. (Still no xgl)


Kano - or anybody - how did you get it so that you still had the title bars using compix?

I have it working in Debian Sid but not title bars which means I can resize or move windows.

I get it to work by running compiz --replace in a terminal

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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly ther  BeitragVerfasst am: 10.10.2006, 04:56 Uhr



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@jens, Thanks, it is up and running. I did something wrong the first time, but will probably never know what. Anyway, it works now. Thanks.

Piper, thanks again Smilie. I seem to have a problem with the keys. How do you know what to put in when they don't work? When I loaded the RC4 and ran apt-get update I had to dig out an old post from you that told me what to do to get the keys. Is there something I should be doing and am missing.

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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly ther  BeitragVerfasst am: 10.10.2006, 16:40 Uhr
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Hi John, just keep these 2 in mind or (write down) whenever you get a W: GPG error

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys

and

apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg


a package will give you the key it is missing in example

W: GPG error: http://kanotixguide.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D278AE91D4E9F186

So then you can just do

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys D278AE91D4E9F186 (enter)

or

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys D4E9F186 (last 8,enter)

then add

apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg (hit enter) then

apt-get update (everything should be fine Smilie )

I hope that wasn't to confusing Winken

Some additional keyservers:

keyring.debian.org
pgp.mit.edu
pgpkeys.pgp.net
wwkeys.uk.pgp.net
wwwkeys.pgp.net

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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly ther  BeitragVerfasst am: 13.10.2006, 00:33 Uhr



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Piper,

Thanks for the info. Not confusing. I have it copied down for future use. Sorry I took so long to respond. I was playing around with the hdd from my tivo and screwed something up. Ended up having to reinstall kanotix. Long story. In bios I had set the hdd boot priority to my sata drive where I had vista. I dumped vista, reformatted that partition. I forgot about this. Something happened when I reconnected my ide hdd and rebooted. No system disk. I panicked and reinstalled kanotix. Didn't work. Several hours later I found what I had done but by this time I had reinstalled it twice and it still didn't work. Got the bios straight and am reinstalling now. These senior moments are killing me Smilie.

Later,

John
 
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Titel: Kano's compiz script still works  BeitragVerfasst am: 14.10.2006, 22:47 Uhr



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I tried using Beryl/AIGLX on my laptop, which has an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M chipset, and it definitely did not work (although AIGLX works great on my workstation, which has an NVidia card).

But, Kano's XGL/compiz script does work on my laptop, and comes complete with the Compiz Settings Manager (similar to beryl-manager) and CWDG Themer (similar to emerald).

Switches for "install-compiz.sh": "-u" to uninstall XGL, "-d" to disable XGL, and "-e" to enable XGL.
 
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Titel: RE: Kano  BeitragVerfasst am: 15.10.2006, 19:05 Uhr



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I had this working in the Easter RC4 but can't get it to work in 2006-1-RC4. Any suggestions?

John
 
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Titel: RE: Kano  BeitragVerfasst am: 16.10.2006, 16:25 Uhr



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Well, I don't know what my problem is but I finally have it working. I installed, uninstalled, re-installed fglrx, reinstalled compiz . I have done this about 3 times now. On the last go it worked. Even the number pad works as it should. Sometimes being stubborn pays off.

Thanks Kano.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 20.10.2006, 02:10 Uhr



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The problem with Xgl/compiz (on my ATI Radeon Xpress 200M) is that, out of all the packages that Kano's script installs, all but four are now in the regular Debian Sid archives.

(libsvg-cairo1 and libsvg1 (from http://cairographics.org ) and xgl and cgwd-themes (from http://www5.autistici.org/debian-xgl/ ) are the four.)

However, after installing the packages and putting the command to start Xgl into /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, and restarting, the accelerated OpenGL rendering provided by the proprietary fglrx driver is no longer there (which you can see by running the "fglrxinfo" command in a console). Instead, it's being replaced with Mesa, and complains about not being able to find the "XFree86-DRI" extension. (Then it usually crashes.)

Hopefully, xgl and cairo will be in Sid soon.

<edit>
The fix to make Xgl stable with fglrx is right there in Kano's script (some day he'll have to write a book named "Secrets of the Universe") -- add "export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/lib/dri" to the top of /etc/init.d/kdm.

The next problem was that the compiz* packages in Sid didn't do anything in KDE other than make kwin disappear. This was solved by removing them (as well as "gset-compiz"), and installing the "quinncvs" compiz package from the "autistici.org" repo. Now it all works again.


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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 20.10.2006, 08:27 Uhr



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eco2geek,

So how do I get it to run so I don't receive "XFree86-DRI" missing. I have compiz running and working but this is what stops me from running googleearth.

John
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 20.10.2006, 11:06 Uhr



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<edit> Erase wrong answer and try again.

jbs1136 -- The reliable way would be to disable Xgl when you run Google Earth. (You can do that manually, by editing /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, or if you're using Kano's "install-compiz" script, use the "-d" switch.)

Assuming you're using the fglrx driver, you could try using the command

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa googleearth

(or whatever version of libGL.so you have there -- use tab completion!) to start it, but it'll probably still crash.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 20.10.2006, 19:59 Uhr



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eco2geek,

Thanks for the help. It is getting too complicated for me. I like compiz and want to keep using it. I will just forget about googleearth for now. If I have to have it I can use it from Windows.

Thanks again,

john
 
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Titel: AIGLX on nvidia is so much better  BeitragVerfasst am: 21.10.2006, 06:24 Uhr



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Kano pointed out that, with Xgl running, you don't get direct rendering. (Which seems odd, but the output of "glxinfo" confirms it.) So, you get a 3D desktop but no 3D apps.

Not to mention that Xgl is very flaky.

AIGLX+Beryl (or compiz, if you prefer) is so much better than Xgl+compiz -- you get direct rendering; it's easier to enable and disable than Xgl; it's built into X.org.

What I don't quite understand is that Fedora's site says certain ATI cards support AIGLX. However, according to the unofficial ATI Linux driver wiki, the proprietary ATI driver doesn't support the "composite" extension, which (with the nvidia driver, at least) has to be enabled for AIGLX to work.

Anyway, I spent some time looking through Kano's script and various how-to's on installing Xgl+compiz, in order to figure out how to do it manually. I don't know if it'll still work on a fully dist-upgraded Kanotix, but Kano's script is really quite good.
 
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Titel: RE: AIGLX on nvidia is so much better  BeitragVerfasst am: 21.10.2006, 23:07 Uhr



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I have read somewhere (a link I followed that took me to a site where someone named quinn was taking beryl as a branch to compiz. I must admit that I don't really understand the whole thing. Do I have to run xgl to have compiz? If I have compiz working does that mean that I have xgl thus I don't have direct rendering. The last I heard beryl was only working for nvidia cards so far. I guess I will wait until it is ready for ati cards and then give it a try. Is it supposed to be a "better" compiz or what?

Thanks for your patience. You are being very helpful.

john
 
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