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Titel: good-bye Dapper  BeitragVerfasst am: 02.07.2006, 21:57 Uhr
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Why are you surprised ?

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Titel: [URL=http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/07/goodbye_da  BeitragVerfasst am: 02.07.2006, 22:10 Uhr



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Well, she should be surprised, *buntu calles itself a stable release. But upgrading the stuff is really a bummer, it turned me away from Kubuntu to Kanotix. The whole KDE messed up, even after having renamed ~/.kde and /etc/kde3. It seemed to be entangled with the system in a way I only knew from Windows boxes.

On the contrary: I even downgraded one Kanotix box with the CD-update-routine because I messed around with the BIOS and did not know that the solution was to fiddle around with the hardware. And I really say, Kano should try to get a patent on his method. Mr. Green It's amazing and flawless.

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Edit: stupid typo

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michael7
Titel: A Big Put Down  BeitragVerfasst am: 03.07.2006, 01:00 Uhr



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This is a big put down. Carla Schroder is a person of considerable stature in the open source community. She wrote one of my favorite books, The Linux Cookbook. Ubuntu will not be able to ignore her criticisms.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 04.07.2006, 05:18 Uhr
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It's what we've been saying here all along. Taking snapshots of a fast moving target doesn't make sense. If the release is on the crux of a major change (like a xorg upgrade) then half of your packages aren't going to be ready.
The Debian approach of "release when ready" makes much more sense in this environment. Forcing a release based on marketing rather than technical readiness is simply form over function.
If you really want something screwed up, let marketing men control it.
It has been 50 years since we had a market economy; what we have now is a marketed economy.
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 04.07.2006, 07:53 Uhr



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well, i tried ubuntu dapper drake and was really disappointed. my printer refused to work, because of cups 1.2.0 fullfilled with bugs. and many others have problems with their printer too and are waiting for fixes...not a release i would recommend to use in a company.
ubuntu aimed at making a distribution which supports all major languages - but gnucash is only available in english.
bugreports about this problems are written there are a few weeks....this sucks
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 04.07.2006, 11:12 Uhr



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Tell me something i dont already know Winken

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Titel: Ubuntu...??  BeitragVerfasst am: 04.07.2006, 22:03 Uhr



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I recently gave Ubuntu 5.10 a spin on my laptop. While some things worked quite well, they worked pretty well in other distros too, the frustrations grew from there. If this is a preview for 6.06, I want no part of it!

I cannot believe how hard it is to install anything that isn't off the web. I use Juno, which has a proprietary dialer, and it other distros Kanotix, Mepis, Xandros, etc. (other Debian distros) I installed from my homemade CD just fine. Try that with Ubuntu!!! Provided your access to the web conforms to their model, I guess you are fine, but if not...you are buggered.

I tried installing the **** packages to get my encrypted DVDs to play...not happening...even when following their website's advice. I am not inexperienced at this. If I find this so frustrating, how much does a real newbie feel? I cannot imagine getting the system up and running just to discover that the programs I really wanted to run cannot be accessed or installed.

Further, what the heck is SUDO, why not allow a true root user? It doesn't work quite as smoothly as they want you to believe. I like being able to login as root. Sometimes I am not sure exactly what the problem is and I have to go to multiple files to find my booboo, SUDO gets old real fast.

CLI for newbies, great!!! I have some experience and CLI work is still a bit iffy for me. I cannot imagine Ubuntu being my first distro...eeeegad. This is from someone who got RedHat 7 to dual boot with windows 95/98.

Sorry for ranting, but I get tired of being run over by the Ubuntu train when I know that many of the bandwagoners are not running if fulltime...they can't be. I run Linux fulltime on both of my computers, desktop and Laptop. It has been a struggle at times (see my posts in other spots) yet the fact that Kanotix has stuck close to its Debian roots allows me to use a variety of tools to solve problems...I don't see Ubuntu (in all of its flavors) giving me this freedom.
 
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