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Titel: Installation problems. Not recoginizing LILO.  BeitragVerfasst am: 16.10.2006, 04:20 Uhr



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I did a reinstall of kanotix to my HDD today after using qtparted to configure the 8gigs of extra space I had on my primary HDD that has windows on it. I configured the partitions as such:
My structure:

/home - 4 gigs
/swap - 1 gig
/ - 3 gig

I'm pretty sure I told the installer to write LILO to the MBR at the end of installation. Now, after the install it goes directly to XP with no LILO. I've never had to partition my drive before on a linux load and don't know why LILO didn't take over. Any ideas? Is it because I didn't create a /boot directory?
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 16.10.2006, 04:41 Uhr
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Fire up the live-cd again, go to the Kmenu>KANOTIX>Installer

when it opens you should see a radio button "recover kanotix installation" , you should see a tab restore grub

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 16.10.2006, 05:18 Uhr



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bluewater hat folgendes geschrieben::
Fire up the live-cd again, go to the Kmenu>KANOTIX>Installer

when it opens you should see a radio button "recover kanotix installation" , you should see a tab restore grub


EDIT: Nevermind. I just used the gparted software and that worked for me.
I went in to Kanotix-Installer and chosed recover kanotix HDD installation. Then recover bootmanager.

I choosed
Bootmanager: GRUB
Root-Partition: /dev/hda6
Installation Place: MBR of /dev/hda

I tried to recover and kept getting Grub error code 1. I don't know what happened to lilo taken over from my original lilo install. I could get a fdisk -l shot if that will help. I've never had to setup my partitions myself and have never ran into this problem since the auto partition ususally works for my dual boots. Shoot. Any other ideas? I went back into qtparted and made /hda6 the active partition think lilo resides there but that just cause and Invalid boot disk error. I read that you need to create a /boot directory for your install if your not using a reiser (sp) file system. I choosed ext3 for all my partitions so I thought that used reiser which doesn't need a /boot directory. Hmmm

Here's my fdisk shot:
Code:
root@1[~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 46.1 GB, 46115758080 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 5606 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *           1        1962    15759733+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda2            1963        3924    15759765    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda3            3925        5606    13510665    5  Extended
/dev/hda5            3925        4561     5116671    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda6            4562        5071     4096543+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7            5072        5202     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda8            5203        5606     3245098+  83  Linux

Disk /dev/hdc: 6449 MB, 6449587200 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 784 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1               1         392     3148708+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2             393         784     3148740    5  Extended
/dev/hdc5             393         784     3148708+   7  HPFS/NTFS


Edit, I decided to start from scratch again. I'm going to try the utilitiy gparted in hopes it works out better than qtparted has for me. I dunno what happened to my boot manager! Grrr.
 
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The_Seeker
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 16.10.2006, 16:53 Uhr



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Zitat:

/swap - 1 gig

1 GB is really too much for swap. A good rule of thumb is double your RAM or 512 MB, whichever comes first.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.10.2006, 01:37 Uhr



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The_Seeker hat folgendes geschrieben::
Zitat:

/swap - 1 gig

1 GB is really too much for swap. A good rule of thumb is double your RAM or 512 MB, whichever comes first.


Yeah, I guess I over did that. But, seeing as how I spent the whole night getting my load working again I think I'll stick with the 1 gig allocation. Unless I can resize it on the fly like in winblows? Can I change the swap/page file after the fact? Thanks. I sure do like that gparted tool! Very cool and useful for sure!
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.10.2006, 05:31 Uhr



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1 gig swap is fine, don't worry. I've gone over 512 mB with 1 gig of ram before.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.10.2006, 08:30 Uhr



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h2 hat folgendes geschrieben::
1 gig swap is fine, don't worry. I've gone over 512 mB with 1 gig of ram before.


Well, my kanotix load seems really crappy after running an apt-get update. I'm going to reload it one more time and not do any updating. Everytime I update it screws it up. The first thing that goes is my root logon to start utilities. It just blows it right out the water. Böse
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.10.2006, 08:37 Uhr
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first of all, you should install latest RC, if you are doing it over again.
root login is disabled anyways and NOT necessary.
you should maybe read a bit on updates, before you start doing them. if your system is less responsive afterwards, then there is something wrong.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.10.2006, 10:33 Uhr



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Yeah don't worry about the swap... you can always change it later or even spit it in two so that it only uses the first half

I have had problems selecting lilo in install on several occaisions, usually it hangs so that you can't shutdown right at the end of the shutdown process... its easily recoverable in a chroot environment but simpler and faster to recover and use grub.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 18.10.2006, 08:15 Uhr



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I've got the loading down to a science now on my Dual-boot rig. I reloaded the 2k6 Easter Kanotix about 4 times after running updates and having it hose up my load. I'm now on RC6 2k6 which so far seems pretty sweet! I'm sketched to do an update and load superkaramba though. Hmmm

Using Gparted solved any/all issues (Sweet Program). Here's my config.

Code:

root@brits:~# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 46.1 GB, 46115758080 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 5606 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *           1        1962    15759733+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda2            1963        3924    15759765    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda3            3925        5606    13510665    5  Extended
/dev/hda5            3925        4561     5116671    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda6            4562        5045     3887698+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7            5046        5481     3502138+  83  Linux
/dev/hda8            5482        5606     1004031   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/hdc: 6449 MB, 6449587200 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 784 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1               1         392     3148708+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2             393         784     3148740    5  Extended
/dev/hdc5             393         784     3148708+   7  HPFS/NTFS
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 19.10.2006, 14:53 Uhr
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you wouldnt be doing a dist-upgrade or an upgrade in X by any chance?

Always check Current Warnings on the KANOTIX main web site. Log out of KDE. Go to Textmode by doing Ctrl+Alt+F1 ; logon as root, and then in type init 3 ; apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade ;run fix-fonts ; run fglrx or nvidia script if xorg updated and you have such a graphics adapter otherwise do ; init 5 && exit

[DO NOT DIST-UPGRADE [or UPGRADE] with adept or synaptic]

Then there is also the h2 d-u script .. read the latest threads for the h2 d-u script
http://kanotix.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-19305.html
the h2 site is here
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about736.html

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 20.10.2006, 07:34 Uhr



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bluewater hat folgendes geschrieben::
you wouldnt be doing a dist-upgrade or an upgrade in X by any chance?

Always check Current Warnings on the KANOTIX main web site. Log out of KDE. Go to Textmode by doing Ctrl+Alt+F1 ; logon as root, and then in type init 3 ; apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade ;run fix-fonts ; run fglrx or nvidia script if xorg updated and you have such a graphics adapter otherwise do ; init 5 && exit

[DO NOT DIST-UPGRADE [or UPGRADE] with adept or synaptic]

Then there is also the h2 d-u script .. read the latest threads for the h2 d-u script
http://kanotix.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-19305.html
the h2 site is here
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about736.html


Excellent! Thanks for the info Bluewater! Much appreciated.
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 22.10.2006, 02:57 Uhr



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bluewater, I had a chance to reload today and follow your instuctions. I have now successfully updated my RC4 version. I no longer have the problems I did before with my password getting messed up among other things. Finally! I have everything going including file/print sharing, sound and superkaramba!

THANKS! Auf den Arm nehmen Sehr glücklich
 
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