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Titel: Microsoft: "Linux uses our intellectual property"  BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 05:16 Uhr



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LinuxWorld article: Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
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In a question-and-answer session after his keynote speech at the Professional Association for SQL Server (PASS) conference in Seattle, Ballmer said Microsoft was motivated to sign a deal with SUSE Linux distributor Novell earlier this month because Linux "uses our intellectual property" and Microsoft wanted to "get the appropriate economic return for our shareholders from our innovation."

Is a legal war about to begin?
 
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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 05:43 Uhr
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Balmer hat folgendes geschrieben::
"Only customers that use SUSE have paid properly for intellectual property from Microsoft," he said. "We are willing to do a deal with Red Hat and other Linux distributors." The deal with SUSE Linux "is not exclusive," Ballmer added.


How is that not extortion?

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jackiebrown
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 06:21 Uhr



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Microsoft is doing what they always do. Trying to buy a problem that won't go away from FUD.

As long as Red Hat, Debian, and the other large players fight it it won't matter one iota. Except for possible confirming the fears people had orginally when Novell took over SuSe.

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hubi
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 10:11 Uhr



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It is always a question of prior art. Linux source code is open and therefore it is easy at which stage of development which solutions were introduced.

Microsoft paid more than 300 million Dollar to Novell, so Debian or Red Hat can claim the same?

And yes: economy is just the continuation of war using other means.

hubi

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Titel: Linux: "Microsoft uses our intellectual property"  BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 10:22 Uhr



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I would recommend to every Linux distributor (and all other important open source projects) to demand a similar agreement from Microsoft, where they agree not to sue if we don't either. This would generate a very welcome financial contribution from Microsoft to all bigger Linux distributions - and other important open source projects. Let them have their favorite toy (worthless papers), and let's take their money. Afterwards we can together buy all MSFT shares and close the company. Winken

The the elephant is dead - let's share the meat!

Greetings,
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Georgy
Titel: RE: Linux: "Microsoft uses our intellectual property&qu  BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 11:34 Uhr



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I recommend Ballmer to take advantage of professional, psychological help.
First he hast "visions" about a future software-syndicate where some fat mopolists lazily sit on their chairs or have fun with the secretary and getting paid from all computer-users in the world for nothing and NULL!
Ok...in some areas such sceanrios are still the case... but thats not the point here.
SCO tried to sue Linux for Patent-issues. What came out of this? nothing!
The sourcecode is free, they can easily take it and show us the parts which they see as their "intellectual property".
Well...at first visions, then he hallucinates... This poor guy really is in need for Help!

The agreement with novell is just some more step in the typical behavior of this company.
Kill all that is getting dangerous, if you can't kill it, buy it!
If you can't buy it, Sue them. If neither of all this works, use all ressources you have to throw them off the market.

well...
lets see whar comes. And how long Suse linux will survive until it gets renamed to "linux Vista" *lool*

greetings,
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Titel: RE: Linux: "Microsoft uses our intellectual property&am  BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 16:05 Uhr
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Titel: RE: Linux: "Microsoft uses our intellectual property&am  BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 19:53 Uhr



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Great link piper, that's a keeper. thanks

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Titel: RE: Linux: "Microsoft uses our intellectual property&am  BeitragVerfasst am: 17.11.2006, 21:35 Uhr



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also worth reading, imo
http://www.nwfdailynews.com/articleArch ... estion.php
 
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Titel: Re: RE: Linux: "Microsoft uses our intellectual propert  BeitragVerfasst am: 18.11.2006, 00:24 Uhr



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Hello!

piper hat folgendes geschrieben::
Why I hate Microsoft

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Cheers, Roman
 
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analogtek
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Linux: "Microsoft uses our intellectual pro  BeitragVerfasst am: 19.11.2006, 19:44 Uhr



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M$ does not have to buy into linux. Just dn the ISO and look at it. It all open!! DUH M$!!! More smoke and mirrors..... I am getting sick of it. Been M$ FREE for 3 yrs. This XMAS-time.
 
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michael7
Titel: Samba Condemns Novell's Deal with Microsoft  BeitragVerfasst am: 20.11.2006, 00:11 Uhr



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http://linux.sys-con.com/read/303038.htm

My respect for Samba grows by the minute.

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bigrigdriver
Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 20.11.2006, 05:18 Uhr



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Now we know what M$ was after in that deal with Novell. If you have ever used Linux tools to format vfat or ntfs partitions, open/edit m$office files, played m$ formatted audio/video files (all their intellectual property) they want money from you to make up for the market share they're loosing to Linux worldwide.
 
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