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Titel: Dist upgrade threatens to remove hal-device-manager?  BeitragVerfasst am: 23.06.2006, 22:35 Uhr



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Hi, is there some sort of storm going on with the Sid repositories right now?

I just tried to do a dist upgrade and I got a mesaage saying that some pretty important stuff was going to be removed from my system.

Should we all hold off from upgrading for a while?

This is the message I got:

Code:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gjots2 hal-device-manager istanbul libannodex0-dev libtasn1-2-dev
  python-gnome2 python2.3-cairo python2.3-ctypes python2.3-glade2
  python2.3-gnome2 python2.3-gtk2 python2.3-opengl python2.4-cairo
  python2.4-glade2 python2.4-gnome2 python2.4-gtk2



GJ

PS I did read the message on the front page about dbus - and I installed it.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 23.06.2006, 22:44 Uhr



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My dist-upgrades haven't caused the above but I don't have gjots2, istanbul or hal-device-manager installed. I did lose streamtuner two days ago taking two python* packages with it. Reinstalling streamtuner took two further python* packages with two python* additions.

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Titel: RE: Dist upgrade threatens to remove hal-device-manager?  BeitragVerfasst am: 23.06.2006, 22:45 Uhr
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root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
python-qt3 squashfs-tools
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.


Although python wars is going on .............I can't help much, you can wait or try irc Smilie

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Titel: RE: Dist upgrade threatens to remove hal-device-manager?  BeitragVerfasst am: 23.06.2006, 23:11 Uhr



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Well my full distupgrade is a little more extensive. I haven't done a dist upgrade for about 6 days....

Code:
apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gjots2 hal-device-manager istanbul libannodex0-dev libtasn1-2-dev
  python-gnome2 python2.3-cairo python2.3-ctypes python2.3-glade2
  python2.3-gnome2 python2.3-gtk2 python2.3-opengl python2.4-cairo
  python2.4-glade2 python2.4-gnome2 python2.4-gtk2
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  evolution-data-server-common libcmml1 libcommoncpp2-1.4-0 libecal1.2-6
  libedata-cal1.2-5 libfile-ncopy-perl libgksu2-0 libgnome-window-settings1
  libhk-classes13 libmime-types-perl libmms0 libnautilus-burn3 libode0c2
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  python-cddb python-soya-common python2.3-soya rosegarden-data
  rox-desktop-core sgf2dg ttf-thai-tlwg
The following packages have been kept back:
  checkinstall gtklookat libgringotts-dev libgtk+2.0-directfb-dev libgtk-java
  libgtk-jni python-egenix-mxproxy python-kde3 python-pychart python-qt3
  python-xml texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-extra
The following packages will be upgraded:
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Titel: RE: Dist upgrade threatens to remove hal-device-manager?  BeitragVerfasst am: 24.06.2006, 07:43 Uhr



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streamtuner can be reinstalled after it's removed, it will just reinstall the required python packages.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 24.06.2006, 12:25 Uhr



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Thanks, it's just HAL I'm concerned with really. HAL is pretty useful - so unless the upstream developers have decided we don't need it somehow, I am curious as to why it has been marked for removal?

Also we are having a bit of a python war too it seems as a lot of python packages have been removed too in recent dist upgrades. (Nothing croitical so far though).

Lol maybe the debian developers really should produce some kind of weather chart - so that we can predict in advance when these kinds of major storms are going to occur?

GJ

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 24.06.2006, 14:50 Uhr



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It's not hal but hal-device-manager which is a hal suggest. I haven't got it installed.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 24.06.2006, 15:30 Uhr



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Yeah I know - but hal-device-manager is useful too. I'm still not clear on the reasoning behind removing it though?

I also seem to be loosing a lot of python stuff too as time goes on... But I figured if I ever needed it I could probabluy install it with whatever app needed to use it at that time.

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Titel:   BeitragVerfasst am: 24.06.2006, 16:19 Uhr



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It seems more extreme than when I lost two packages with streamtuner; but reinstalling streamtuner added another two python packages with it.

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