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Post subject: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
 Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 01:46 AM
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ok, its here,seems ok
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Post subject: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 02:08 AM
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| This is basically a caution. I dist-upgraded. Things seemed to go pretty fine. However, browsing in Firefox (1.5.0.4-3) is kind of wacky at the moment. Much text won't show up until the mouse cursor is positioned over it, and the layouts are borked. Just a warning! |
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Post subject: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 03:28 AM
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Ok, I did 2 d-u's, one I dropped down to init 3 and it went smooth, fonts look horrible
The second one I used h2's script, again all went smooth, fonts look horrible 
I will work on fixing my fonts, otherwise very smooth for me (maybe not for everyone)
No problems with firefox (except fonts), themes and extensions work no problem so far
EDIT: I have been using tahoma fonts lately instead of my favorite, (freesans bold) what I did to fix the problem I had was to change fonts in firefox, close it, open it and change fonts again, close it, open it and everything is fine now |
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Post subject: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 04:07 AM
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Post subject: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 05:32 AM
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| I restored the box that had the broken gtk, then installed only the new libgtk2.0 stuff, to see what caused the gtk apps to fail, but with the new gtk libs and no new kde, the gtk apps are fine, so it looks like it might be some mixture of kde 3.5.4 and the new gtk stuff, or just kde 3.5.4 alone |
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Post subject: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 07:20 AM
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solution from debian kde team for above issue:
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you have to go in kcontrol
disable antialiased fonts
save
renable again and save
there was a bug in 3.5.3 that made kcontrol use a bad setting name in the config file
it's reverted in 3.5.4 but has that effect for /some/ 3.5.3 users
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Post subject: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 07:47 AM
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| I didn't have the "disappearing text" issue, but the fonts in GTK apps were quite bitmappy after the upgrade. Setting sub-pixel hinting to Full took care of that. |
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Post subject: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 07:56 AM
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 08:18 AM
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Thanks h2. Disappearing fonts back again as normal!
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 09:44 AM
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I'll upgrade tonight, but before I do I have a question.
I don't have kcontrol centre on my box, so how do I go about (if necessary) disabling/enabling antialiasing fonts?
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 11:03 AM
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KDE 3.5.4 seems to work great, still have disappearing fonts in synaptic, do not use firefox but mozilla, fonts were always great with it.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 11:14 AM
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hubi, did you try unchecking / checking anti-aliasing fonts in control centre? This solved the Firefox problem and I don't appear to have any other problems in synaptic etc. etc.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 12:48 PM
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| Can anyone tell me if these fonts/gtk problems are confined to KDE? I'm usually in xfce. |
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 04:01 PM
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There seems to be a reproducable problem with mountig as user (DVD, CD, USB-devices), I only get the following message by kio_media_mounthelper:
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A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")
Changing permissions in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf does not help in any way.
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Post subject: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 04:26 PM
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there was a bug in 3.5.3 that made kcontrol use a bad setting name in the config file
I wonder if someone could get the diff of the config file before and after doing that fix, and create a script applying that diff. In that way, we can avoid going back and forward in X
or can be this done with dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-conf ? |
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Post subject: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 04:50 PM
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drb,
unfortunatelly, unchecking/checking AA did not help here (did it as root because of synaptic).
About mounting as user:
pmount and pumount are working.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 09:14 PM
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I can reproduce the mounting error.
the drive is recognized, but not mounted. Icon appears on desktop, mount option is present, but when tried that error message pops up.
Thanks for noticing that hubi, now to find the solution |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 10:24 PM
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Just reported a bug against kdebase-kio-plugins 3.5.4-2. Think that's the candidate for the mounting problems.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: KDE-3.5.4 is in :: exercise caution
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 10:34 PM
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 10:41 PM
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If you like to mount the devices graphically, then you can take the filemanager of XFCE named thunar (apt-get install thunar).
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 11:11 PM
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Just got an answer to my bugreport:
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The root of the problem is bug #377689 in HAL. Feel free to read that
for more details. You can work around the issue for now by ensuring
that all your drives have lines in /etc/fstab with the "user" option.
Cheers,
Christopher Martin
It was my second bugreport at Debian in my life, but what I really adore is, the answers are delivered quickly, precisely and very,very politely.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 11:49 PM
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 12:22 AM
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I am new to kanotix, and did a "test install" (2005-04) weekend before last (7/22) to play around with. I was nervous about using kanotix because it's based on unstable, while on my old system I'd been using libranet that I'd updated to sarge.
During my test install I could easily apt-get some kde things like celestia and an internationalization package. This past weekend (7/29) I found I couldn't, at least not without upgrading some bits of kde to 3.5. This thread cleared it all up for me, I was wondering if I was going nuts.
Two questions, because I'm unfamiliar with how unstable and testing are updated:
1. Does this type of thing happen often, where versions of important software are upgraded (i.e. 3.4.x --> 3.5.x) within the release?
2. How long should I expect to wait before it's safe to upgrade all of kde to 3.5 so I can get my toys? |
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 02:11 AM
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For the mounting issue with KDE 3.5.4 Kano provided informations in the german language forum for a workaround (which might be gone after the next update of hal, or better: might be irrelevant by an upgrade from Sid).
Here it positivly affects USB-devices (sticks, hard-disks - YES: I can mount them!), it does not affect DVDs or CDs here (IDE-connected DVD-writer).
The workaround is to edit /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf as root and change the last paragraph to this format:
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<!-- You can change this to a more suitable user, or make per-group -->
<policy group="plugdev">
<!--
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement"/>
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.LaptopPanel"/>
-->
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume"/>
<allow send_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.Crypto"/>
</policy>
Just for the sake of good sleep, I backed up the original hal.conf:
# cp /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf.original
Please check also if you really do not need the first two lines, otherwise delete the "arrows".
It might be the maximum I can get out of this situation.
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 02:41 AM
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The fix for the poor fonts in FF and gtk worked for me. Just unchecked, saved then rechecked "Use antialiased fonts" box in kcontrol. Now I am happy  |
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