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Post subject: Perfect installation but some slight problem (issues??)
 Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 09:34 PM
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First off, this is one of the best distro's I've used.... can't believe I didn't try it earlier, so a big congrats to everyone on this 
I've installed kanopix 2005 / 04 without any hussle but I may have made an error somewhere along the partition line, 'cause after reboot, I have my "/" directory appear on the desktop as "hd1", 9.7GB media.
I've had my installation on my WD j8mb 80GB hdd as:
Primary partition hdh1
* reiserFS 9GB: / mount point
Ex partition hdh4
* reiserFS - hdh5 (10GB): /home
* reiserFS - hdh6 (15GB): /opt
* reiserFS - hdh7 (39GB): /data
* reiserFS - hdh8 (1GB): /var
* hdh9 (541.22mb): Swap
So seeing a 9.7GB media on my desktop after installation seems quite strange...
Any help / suggestions??
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Post subject: Perfect installation but some slight problem (issues??)
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 09:59 PM
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nitto,
besides that you have installed an old version, which is hard to upgrade, to solve the disk problem, please show output of fdisk -l (its a small L)
greetz
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Post subject: Re: Perfect installation but some slight problem (issues??)
Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 10:16 PM
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Old veersion?
I thought this was the latest one!! just downloaded 
what is the latest version?
Also, fdisk -l (small L) had no output 
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nitto@Aurelie:~$ fdisk -l /dev/hda
nitto@Aurelie:~$ fdisk /dev/hda
Unable to open /dev/hda
nitto@Aurelie:~$
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devil wrote:
nitto,
besides that you have installed an old version, which is hard to upgrade, to solve the disk problem, please show output of fdisk -l (its a small L)
greetz
devil
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 10:25 PM
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You have to become root first:
Code:
sux
fdisk -l
devil meant Easter-RC4, which is much easier to upgrade than 2005-04. |
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 10:50 PM
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ahem 
root@Aurelie:/home/nitto# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hdh: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdh1 1 1175 9438156 83 Linux
/dev/hdh2 1176 9729 68710005 5 Extended
/dev/hdh5 1176 2480 10482381 83 Linux
/dev/hdh6 2481 4438 15727603+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdh7 4439 9529 40893426 83 Linux
/dev/hdh8 9530 9660 1052226 83 Linux
/dev/hdh9 9661 9729 554211 82 Linux swap / Solaris
Disk /dev/sda: 257 MB, 257425408 bytes
16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 982 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 982 251376 e W95 FAT16 (LBA)
How stable is Easter-RC4 version?
cheers
ockham23 wrote:
You have to become root first:
Code:
sux
fdisk -l
devil meant Easter-RC4, which is much easier to upgrade than 2005-04.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 10:55 PM
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 11:08 PM
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How stable is Easter-RC4 version?
Actually, it's quite stable for a preview release. But I wouldn't use it to run a nuclear power plant. 
The only major issue I know of is with VIA onboard sound chips (e.g., VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller), which may cause the sound system driver to hang during start up. But there's a simple solution for this problem. |
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 - 11:12 PM
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nitto,
i guess, its just a matter of counting, 1gig being 100megs 01 1024 megs:
/dev/hdh1 1 1175 9438156 83 Linux
easter RC4 is stable here for months, but maybe just wait a little while and watch for news.
btw: how many distros live on that disk?
and on the others, this one being hdh?
greetz
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 03:17 AM
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1 hdd (80GB) and 1 distro, which is Kanotix!
devil wrote:
nitto,
i guess, its just a matter of counting, 1gig being 100megs or 1024 megs:
/dev/hdh1 1 1175 9438156 83 Linux
greetz
devil
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 06:27 AM
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nitto,
i was just wondering, because your disk is hdh. if you have only one, it would be hda.
greetz
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 06:58 AM
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| Strange, I'm using the easter rc4 version and this version as well as the 2005-04 version both display incorrect partition sizes on the desktop icons, for example, my root partition is 7 gigs, it says 7.5 on desktop, my /home is 5.94 gigs, it says 6.4 on the desktop, and so on. I wonder why? |
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 03:47 PM
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Could it be due to the way I partitioned my hdd??
I created the root "/" in the primay partition then Extended the rest, which then divided into /usr /opt etc....
Is this the correct way to partition OR was it suppose to be all Primary Partitions?
devil wrote:
nitto,
i was just wondering, because your disk is hdh. if you have only one, it would be hda.
greetz
devil
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 10:03 PM
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nitto wrote:
Could it be due to the way I partitioned my hdd??
I created the root "/" in the primay partition then Extended the rest, which then divided into /usr /opt etc....
Is this the correct way to partition OR was it suppose to be all Primary Partitions?
I can see nothing wrong with the way you have partitioned your drive. It is fine to have only 1 primary and the rest logical drives in the extended partition. Linux does not care. It
seems to me that your desktop hdd icons are stupid or just lying to you. I dunno since I don't use them. What does the command df -h say?
The KDE users are forever mucking about with those desktop icons to get them to work right - I personally would not trust them. |
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 10:44 PM
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mzilikazi wrote:
I can see nothing wrong with the way you have partitioned your drive. It is fine to have only 1 primary and the rest logical drives in the extended partition. Linux does not care. It
seems to me that your desktop hdd icons are stupid or just lying to you. I dunno since I don't use them. What does the command df -h say?
~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdh1 9.1G 4.6G 4.5G 51% /
tmpfs 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 10M 184K 9.9M 2% /dev
/dev/sda1 246M 201M 45M 82% /media/sda1 |
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 10:50 PM
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mzilikazi wrote:
The KDE users are forever mucking about with those desktop icons to get them to work right - I personally would not trust them.
LOL, The users or the icons hehe |
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Posted: Aug 02, 2006 - 06:07 AM
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nitto wrote:
mzilikazi wrote:
I can see nothing wrong with the way you have partitioned your drive. It is fine to have only 1 primary and the rest logical drives in the extended partition. Linux does not care. It
seems to me that your desktop hdd icons are stupid or just lying to you. I dunno since I don't use them. What does the command df -h say?
~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdh1 9.1G 4.6G 4.5G 51% /
tmpfs 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 10M 184K 9.9M 2% /dev
/dev/sda1 246M 201M 45M 82% /media/sda1
Nope the icon wasn't lying was it?
Now it would be wise to make backups of both /var & /home/<username> before continuing. Seriously - make a backup.
None of your other partitions are mounted. I don't know if this was a bug with the installer or just a simple error during installation. At any rate you don't need to reinstall. You can make it right. This is no more complicated than copying dirs & files from one place to another. Each partition needs to be listed in /etc/fstab or they won't get mounted. As root using your favorite editor edit /etc/fstab.
Code:
su
mcedit -b /etc/fstab
/dev/hdh5 /home reiserfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hdh6 /opt reiserfs defaults 0 2
/dev/hdh7 /data reiserfs defaults 0 2
/dev/hdh8 /var reiserfs defaults 0 2
You'll also need to copy the contents of /var and /home each to their respective partitions.
Code:
su
mount /dev/hdh5 /media/hdh5
cd /home
cp -a * /media/hdh5
mount /dev/hdh8 /media/hdh8
cd /var
cp -a * /media/hdh8
Now you must remove the contents of both /home & /var so that when you reboot all partitions are mounted and the correct data is in each one.
You did make backups right?
I do this in a bit of a redundant fashion but all it takes is one <space> in the wrong place and you can nuke your / !
Code:
CTRL+ALT+F1
Log in as root
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init 2
cd /var
rm -rf * /var/*
cd /home
rm -rf /home/*
reboot
Good luck. If something gets hosed like oh I dunno from a typo on my part  boot the live cd and make it right. Well this was typed at the end of a 15 hour day so......
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Posted: Aug 02, 2006 - 06:10 AM
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piper wrote:
mzilikazi wrote:
The KDE users are forever mucking about with those desktop icons to get them to work right - I personally would not trust them.
LOL, The users or the icons hehe
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Posted: Aug 03, 2006 - 01:50 PM
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mzilikazi wrote:
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You'll also need to copy the contents of /var and /home each to their respective partitions.
Code:
su
mount /dev/hdh5 /media/hdh5
cd /home
cp -a * /media/hdh5
mount /dev/hdh8 /media/hdh8
cd /var
cp -a * /media/hdh8
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thanks for the help
I really appreciate this.... 
now a slight problem with above command...
when I type :
mount /dev/hdh5 /media/hdh5
an error comes up as:
mount: you must specify the filesystem type
Is this where I specify, reiserFs????
and just a note that:
# mount -l
command brough up:
/dev/hdh1 on / type reiserfs (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=0666)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
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Posted: Aug 03, 2006 - 02:11 PM
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nitto wrote:
now a slight problem with above command...
when I type :
mount /dev/hdh5 /media/hdh5
an error comes up as:
mount: you must specify the filesystem type
Is this where I specify, reiserFs????
Seems like you have no filesystem on /dev/hdh5 so create one before trying to mount.
Code:
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mkreiserfs /dev/hdh5
Now it should mount. Of course you'll need to do the same for any other partitions that have no filesystem on them. |
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Posted: Aug 05, 2006 - 04:47 PM
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thanks for all the help
at the end, I just re-installed with the Easter-RC4 and after a second try, everything worked fine.
I think the source of the problem was the software package QTparted.
As suggested, I used the CFdisk to partition my hdd while working with the LiveCD of Easter-RC4 then formated the partitions with reiserFS. Installing from that point was only a 9min smooth transaction
One question is the partitions on the hdd.
After reading many pages on the web about this, I was still not clear on what is the better way to partition my hdd for Kanotix, so I used :
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/home
/opt
/data
/var
Swap
but it seems, /opt and /data are almost entirely empty, whereas / and /var fairly full.
Is there a more optimum way to partition a 200GB hdd on a latest model system for a single user? (possible uses are games/video/data etc...)
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Posted: Aug 05, 2006 - 06:13 PM
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Nitto,
I would suggest (and use myself) a partition table like this, "as complicated as needed, as simple as possible":
Code:
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/home
/data
The reasoning: I prefer to keep the OS separate from my own files (but there's no need to divide the OS up, at least not in your or my case, I think); on the home partition I keep all the stuff I take as important (and backup very often); videos, music and other large files of less importance I store on the data partition. |
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Posted: Aug 06, 2006 - 05:22 AM
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nitto wrote:
but it seems, /opt and /data are almost entirely empty, whereas / and /var fairly full.
/opt will fill in time. Some applications use this diretory e.g. openoffice.org. /data is not in any way part of the Linux filesystem heirarchy standard. Perhaps /data was suggested as a place to store files to be accessed by both Linux & windows? If I were to put any directory on another partition it would be /usr. That's going to fill up rather quickly. Everytime you install an application most of it goes directly into /usr. Here is my current partition table as an example.
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 957M 490M 468M 52% /
tmpfs 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda9 35G 28G 6.7G 81% /home
/dev/sda6 957M 34M 924M 4% /tmp
/dev/sda8 2.8G 1.6G 1.3G 55% /var
/dev/sda10 9.4G 3.3G 6.1G 35% /usr
/dev/sda13 38G 34G 3.3G 92% /home/mzilikazi/Music
/dev/sda3 9.4G 6.7G 2.7G 72% /home/mzilikazi/Photos
tmpfs 10M 148K 9.9M 2% /dev
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Is there a more optimum way to partition a 200GB hdd on a latest model system for a single user? (possible uses are games/video/data etc...)
That's largely a matter of opinion and preference. I've always liked multi-partition layouts but there is nothing that says you must use one.
Please look here for further info on FHS. |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2006 - 07:30 AM
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I'm assuming that with all the partition suggestions above, Swap is still there, right?
I mean,
eg. /
/home
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Posted: Aug 08, 2006 - 01:27 PM
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nitto wrote:
I'm assuming that with all the partition suggestions above, Swap is still there, right?
I mean,
eg. /
/home
/data
/Swap
Yes I do in fact also have a /swap partition. |
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 - 11:16 AM
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ok...
a follow up question!
Having a simpler form of partition scheme as:
/
/home
/data
/Swap
I get access violation problems when I try to save or write anything into /data partition. It's been owned by root and won't allow me to write anything into it.
How do I change this so that I can start using all the partitions!
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