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            Titel: since upgrading  media software I cann't get root user acess 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 06:32 Uhr
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          I upgraded transcode and **censored** and now i can not get access to anything needing root access. I keep getting wrong password error
 
 
Any ideas guys?
 
 
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            Titel: RE: since upgrading  media software I cann 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 06:52 Uhr
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            Titel: RE: since upgrading  media software I cann 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 07:02 Uhr
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          I am trying to find a program that i can archive (compress) my own home movies as my wife is a video recording nut when it comes to the kids
 
I did not realise it was a no go program 
 
 
how ever the question was not about the censored program but how do i reset the root password as before
 
 
I just read about using su in a terminal 
 
eg su
 
synapic
 
 
I am now confused as this worked but when kde asks for a password it fails
 
 
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            Titel: RE: since upgrading  media software I cann 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 07:10 Uhr
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          you would have to dist-upgrade to fix this.
 
 
greetz
 
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            Titel: RE: since upgrading  media software I cann 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 07:22 Uhr
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          | Can you log on as console? Then it is a edit of the kdmrc file in the /etc/kde3/kdm/ area. Just look for AllowRootLogin=false  change to true and save file of course!! | 
         
        
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            Titel: RE: since upgrading  media software I cann 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 07:27 Uhr
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          I hope analogtek is right as upgrading with dialup is so painful its not worth  doing
 
thanks I will give it a go tomorrow 
 
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            Titel: RE: since upgrading  media software I cann 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 08:50 Uhr
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          Careful! 
 
analogtek speaks about how to allow root to log in to the entire X, KDE, ..., which is - from a security point of view - a *very* bad idea. I thought you were talking about having some user run KDE and only run certain programs (e.g. synaptic) as root.
 
Unfortunately I have no clue regarding your original problem | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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            Titel: Re: RE: since upgrading  media software I cann 
             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 16:24 Uhr
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 spottyrover hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
I hope analogtek is right as upgrading with dialup is so painful its not worth  doing
 
thanks I will give it a go tomorrow 
 
Dave
 
 
 
devil has given you the answer.  You need to upgrade to fix that kdesu problem.  You don't need to log into KDE as root. | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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             Verfasst am: 23.11.2006, 22:40 Uhr
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          I had the same problem and solved it by following hubi's advice in another thread named "invalid password" under General Support.
 
 
hubi said:
 
 
apt-get update
 
apt-get install kdebase
 
 
or
 
 
apt-get update
 
apt-get dist-upgrade
 
 
I chose the first option as the less drastic of the two, and it worked like a charm.
 
 
Hope this works for you, spottyrover.
 
 
Have fun!
 
 
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             Verfasst am: 24.11.2006, 03:43 Uhr
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          Actually the "less" drastic of the 2 would be a "dist-upgrade" due to possible dependency problems with "newer/changes/etc.." in apps in kde base. Just my 2 cents   | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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             Verfasst am: 24.11.2006, 10:26 Uhr
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          As I said I am on dial up and a poor one at that
 
I have not tried yet and a few post have put me off for now ( there is a rumour that the local isp is going to set up a wireless broard band next month ). since I have found out that how to use synaptic and a few other programs from the terminal
 
 
My new question is how do i get root access to konqueror as i need it ocasionally
 
 
thanks for all of your help
 
 
ps. for the kano developers it helps us poor buggers on dial up considerably when either synaptic or adept is installed as old downloaded files can easily be reused without needing to do apt-get update
 
 
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             Verfasst am: 24.11.2006, 10:31 Uhr
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             Verfasst am: 24.11.2006, 10:45 Uhr
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          apt-get install kdebase wont work anymore to fix the problem, dist-upgrade is needed since latest kde upgrade the other day.
 
(and i am NOT talking about logging into the system as root.)
 
any job can be done from a root konsole.
 
 
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             Verfasst am: 24.11.2006, 11:48 Uhr
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          I just tried the edit file as root as suggested severin but it will not accept my root password it only seems to accept it in a terminal 
 
su
 
password
 
synaptic 
 
works but starting synaptic through the menu does not work
 
hence my new question is how do i get root access to konqueror as i need it ocasionally 
 
 
 
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          | This is really weird; maybe some keyboard issue - do you got any weird characters in your root password? You might wanna try temporarily changing it to, say, "bla" and see if Edit file as root works. To change root password, run
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sux
 
<password>
 
passwd
 
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             Verfasst am: 24.11.2006, 14:39 Uhr
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 spottyrover hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
I just tried the edit file as root as suggested severin but it will not accept my root password it only seems to accept it in a terminal 
 
su
 
password
 
synaptic 
 
works but starting synaptic through the menu does not work
 
hence my new question is how do i get root access to konqueror as i need it ocasionally 
 
 
 
thanks dave
 
 
 
This is exactly the problem of which we speak.  There is nothing wrong with the root password.  The problem is kdesu, the very tool that asks for the root password when you launch an app like Synaptic.  If you need to do anything as root use a terminal.
 
Code: 
sux
 
konqueror
 
 
Now you have Konq opened as root.
 
Code: 
sux
 
kedit /path/to/some/file
 
 
Now you are editing as root.
 
Simple no? | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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             Verfasst am: 24.11.2006, 15:21 Uhr
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          ...and if that should really not work (sux  in konsole), then let me guess:
 
you have easter 2006 installed or even older...
 
 
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          I am confused as i tried to do sux then
 
konqueror 
 
before and got an error 
 
but this time it worked as i used to use this before when i tried ubunu ( note no ubuntu repos used) when it came to changing config files.
 
 
and yes it is 2006 easter
 
 
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          hi,
 
 
I have the same problem with kdesu.
 
When I plug a new USB-Device then normaly there is an automatic mount of that device and a konqueror window is opened.
 
But with the kdesu problem it comes an error message and no mount.
 
 
So I must open a terminal and make a manual mount as root.
 
 
What can I do, is the dist-upgrade the only solution ? | 
         
        
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          | If you want kdesu working than d-u seems to be the only solution at this moment. | 
         
        
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          I can confirm the root password problem, at least on Easter 2006
 
I administer my son's box which had no internet connection at all till recently
 
 
It started after upgrading multimedia packages (always got via another PC's connection) probably because bits of KDE or other dependencies had to be upgraded too
 
 
Our workaround was to just use SUDO for most root jobs which always worked
 
/etc/sudoers was easily modified by logging out of KDE back in as root in textmode then open mc to edit
 
 
username     ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
 
 
Apart from this bug it was a remarkably stable system. Dist upgrade eventually fixed it | 
         
        
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