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            Titel: messy d-u 
             Verfasst am: 15.10.2006, 15:07 Uhr
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          I have been having some problems that you kind folks have helped me with.  Recently, I had to install testing version of hal in order to mount (outside of console) my primary FAT32 drive. I then put hal on hold (really I did!)
 
 
I also unheld initscripts after doing the fix locsmif on the home page.
 
 
Today I did a d-u with h2's script since I am getting nervous about doing d-u myself.  Well, initscripts stayed on hold (although I know I unheld it with echo initscripts install|dpkg --set-selections)
 
 
and hal upgraded back to unstable though I know I held that back. 
 
 
Right now I am unable to access the primary disk again and I cannot install the testing version of it.  
 
 
nish# apt-get install hal/testing returns
 
Reading package lists... Done
 
Building dependency tree... Done
 
Selected version 0.5.8.1-1 (Debian:unstable) for hal
 
hal is already the newest version.
 
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
 
 
Where am I going wrong?  The initscripts staying held isn't a big deal right now I don't think, but I have got to be able to access that primary disk in KDE since most of my storage is there.  Help is sincerely appreciated.
 
 
update:  I had an idea to check out debian.org and sure enough the new hal has moved into testing which is why trying to downgrade it didn't (although I don't know how a held package upgraded!).  Luckily had the older version still in my cache and downgraded to it and am good for the moment accessing my primary disk.  I know this is a debian problem but could someone explain what it is and I am getting worried since I don't think I can keep hal frozen indefinately.  Is it something with my particular system setup?
 
 
Is my Easter sid doomed?  I was toying with installing Etch but see that wouldn't work for me anymore either with the hal thing. | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
            
            
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            Titel: messy d-u 
             Verfasst am: 15.10.2006, 15:21 Uhr
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          nish,
 
problem is, from today, testing holds the same version of hal as sid, which you can see with:
 
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apt-cache policy hal
 
 
you have to use this for now:
 
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http://kanotix.com/files/fix/hal_0.5.7.1-2_i386.deb
 
 
 
greetz
 
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             Verfasst am: 15.10.2006, 15:28 Uhr
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          Yes, Devil. thanks  I saw the problem and edited my post as you were replying.  I will keep that older version safely stored since it looks like the darn thing just won't stay held for me.
 
 
Still wondering about the long-term, though. | 
         
        
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             Verfasst am: 15.10.2006, 16:32 Uhr
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          nish,
 
long term it will be fixed.
 
 
greetz
 
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             Verfasst am: 15.10.2006, 17:08 Uhr
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          Just curious but whats the problem with Hal and initscripts? Im running Easter RC4 fully d-u as of about 30 minutes ago.
 
 
No problems that I have found so far. Konsole works just fine, cdrom isnt going crazy.
 
 
No crashes or bugs of any kind that I have found so far. OO works even though dpkg complained about removing a couple files. | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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             Verfasst am: 15.10.2006, 17:30 Uhr
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          Craig,  I don't know why you aren't affected by the initscripts thing, it says so right on home page that it is a problem with Easter and Cebit.
 
 
The hal problem is debian and I guess not enough of us are having trouble, why would they let it move into testing then?  I use XP on FAT32 for my large primary drive.  I think most people have moved away from FAT32 - I think I am dinosaur. | 
         
        
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             Verfasst am: 15.10.2006, 20:32 Uhr
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          | I see that once again, an upgrade is safer than a dist-upgrade, as initscripts are automatically held back when doing just an upgrade. | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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